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And I have spoken to the labour board because of the way the company has their contracts worded it is a grey zone so they are completely allowed to do this….

I went to a career fair for Paladin Security on September 13th, and was hired on the spot, for a Parking Bylaw position… so the employer knew exactly what I looked like, that I was in a car accident but have been cleared to return to work, and that I had also been off on maternity leave.

Fast forward to September 20-21-22 I was in class doing “training” that in my opinion truly believe needs to be updated as it doesn’t follow very many of the current guidelines, and they I believe again in my opinion receive a “training bonus” from the client ( the person who contracts this company to do the parking enforcement). The 23rd of September I went out into the field writing practice tickets, and identifying different situations where a ticket or a warning would be needed, 8 hours of walking I definitely felt it but I handled it well, and was excited to continue. I had the 24th and 25th of September off and returned to work the 26th and 27th to do the exact same thing as I had done on the 23rd just with different trainers, truthfully only one trainer took serious time to explain any questions to me, and go over everything in great detail, for his training I was thankful. So within those two days, I was walking 13-15km a day also trying to keep up with another individuals speed of walking so of course my feet were swollen by the end of day 2, I came in the 28th wrote the exam and passed with flying colours, and was ALLOWED, to go home to rest as it was not told prior that we HAD to stay to finish out the day with more “training” so I left 2 hours early.

On the 29th of September I was taken by the Contract Manager to the Client to be sworn in as a Officer for the city, everything went smooth and I believed there was nothing wrong, I had booked the rest of that day off due to an appointment that I could not miss, and it was for a nerve block due to my car accident. I had September 30th and October 1 off as per the schedule.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW

I came in on October 2nd after spending all weekend buying things to prepare for my upcoming important roll, proper orthotics, compression stockings, and a few more items for winter, as I was going to ask a question I was told I was not going out right away that I was needing in a meeting, of course my first thought is oh ***** what did I do? Thinking and thinking I couldn’t figure out what I had done wrong in such a short period of time.

I go into this meeting with the Contract manager and someone I had never seen before only to be told they were terminating my employment that I was not fit enough for the position, and that me not being able to keep up to SENIOR officers walking paces likely meant I would not be able to handle the daily quota they want for tickets. So not only did this individual say I wasn’t skinny or fit enough ( I am by far not the biggest individual there) they also basically said they didn’t believe I could do it, well I asked if I haven’t been given the chance to on my own yet, how would you know I wouldn’t be able to do the job? And my question was met with “ I am not at liberty to answer any questions you may have at this time” and told to hand in my uniform and leave the building, when I voiced I did not agree to them taking off the “training amount” of 500$ since they had choose to fire me right after training me ( it has come to light I am 1 of 7 they have done this too in this specific contract), that I had not been given the chance to show or prove anything, they have jumped to the conclusion based off my weight, I was told too bad you signed the contract stating we could and we will regardless.

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So I will post the pay stub and the contract which because of their specific wording they are allowed to get away with it, so not only do they get paid from the client to train people as a training allowance ( third party information I’ve been told and cannot confirm they get this), they also deduct it from hard working individuals, and their training is nothing special it’s the same as any other job, you get shown how to do your job, so why would that cost 500$? They don’t give you anything special. This company also states if you get any training ( first aid , WHIMIS, Pro serve) outside of their “trainer” you will not be allowed to use it and have to retake their training anyways.

These individuals have essentially been getting free labour from the people they hire, and then immediately fire, and they believe it’s right… there is an election coming up and I believe that it’s time that a new council come in and go over this company with a fine tooth comb because they need to see exactly what is happening…. so with me being the 7th person that is 3500$ of free labour…. they didn’t do anything we put in the time, we paid over 100$ in parking as they do not give you a parking pass or a reduced rate even though they are given parking stalls by the place they’re office is in, they waste our time, and some of us turn down much better companies and positions as we are loyal and do not want to leave anyone high and dry…

I believe everyone deserves to know this, those companies that pay for your training, and your licensing and everything, or the companies that require you to sign a contract stating they pay for your training and you must stay for x amount of time of you have to pay them back, don’t waste your time with them. You are far better off to find a company who values you as an individual, as an employee, a company who has the opportunity to give you advancement and where you will not be judged and discriminated against based on anything about your persons.

I feel extremely wronged so do the other individuals who have had this happen… and sadly its not just this contract manager who has done this, it’s a lot of them they do it to be able to deduct the finances again getting free labour ( third party information I’ve been told and seen the pay statements and employment records to confirm)

I can only post 1 photo or I would post the pay stub showing, earnings of just about 900$, paid 340$….

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  1. Daryl Perry Daryl Perry says:

    I am former Edmontonian and refuse to work for this company…

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  2. Less than 3 months employment you can be terminated without reason

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  3. Just in case no one saw the picture I screen shoted it to post it here

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    • Felicia Rene Felicia Rene says:

      That is ludicrous. I can’t believe they charge $500 for them to train you on how to do the job? If they’re hiring individuals that have no experience in this field they are obligated to train you.. this is a cash cow, plain as day.

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    • Felicia Rene I do have experience in the security industry but not as a parking bylaw enforcer, so basically the training was the same as McDonald’s does, someone whose been there long ( a manager – team lead) train you in order to get you ready to do the job.

      I’ve said I’m of course upset I was fired, but it’s them taking the money that prompted me posting this I am extremely upset that they think it’s okay to train someone- and then fire them on their first “real” day of work and still take the money!

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    • Rhon Magyar Rhon Magyar says:

      They charge $100 for Proserve???? The govt only charges $26 lol

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    • Yea… that’s what I said when I actually saw it

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    • There is clearly an upcharge on all their “training”.

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    • when signing a document isn’t optional .. that sucks. I mean you didn’t have to sign it .. but they probably would have terminated you then if you didn’t. I wish I knew more about the legalities. They should have at least given you a chance.

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    • So….to clarify, they presented you with a document that clearly outlined your financial responsibility should your employment be terminated. You agreed. You signed the document. Your employment was terminated. Now you’re upset that the employer did exactly what they said they would do (according to the document you signed and agreed to).

      Have I got that right?

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    • They made us believe when questioned that it was if WE choose to leave not if they choose to fire us immediately after training finished.

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    • Was that written down anywhere and signed by both parties?

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    • It was written down in the picture shown above, yes I did initial it, but was told it was only if I did not complete the training / choose to leave / or if they had to pay someone to come in and train us. Which they did not. What I was paid for was my wages which they so conveniently took 500$ back

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  4. I’m sorry that’s happening to you, what they want to charge is insane, I am sorry they took that amount from you right after you completed the course and they choose to fire you, I’m sorry they’re using a grey zone… I am thankful that you posted this I was invited to their hiring fair I myself won’t be attending now, I don’t feel like being taken advantage of either just because of the crappy economy

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  5. Take them to court. Try to find the others and do a class action suit. There are so many things that seem outright illegal here and against the labor law. Contact the local Federation of Labor for advice. Big applause for you standing against this scam.

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  6. Anita McGinn Anita McGinn says:

    The OP says the reason given is that he/she isn’t “fit” enough for the position. Then he/she goes on to say that there are larger people doing this job. If there are larger people doing the job then they are definitely fit for the job. Overweight people can be fast. Maybe she wasn’t as fast as they wanted her/him to be. I think the OP is making it a weight issue when it isnt. “Fit” can mean so many things other than weight.

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    • I suspect the problem wasn’t necessarily her “size”. More likely it was a supervisor noticing physical impairments that could potentially lead to liability issues.

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  7. Take it to the labor board if the contract is screwy they may have a reason to question and change it. Wortha shot.

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  8. No this is my post, and the comment most definitely was directed at my weight.

    We were encouraged to walk our own pace and not over due ourselves as walking 13-15km in a day is hard on anyone just starting to do it.

    I kept up to the trainers, I followed all instructions given, this was simply my weight, because after a shift I took my tacs off and my feet had swollen.. funny how the next day I was fired…

    I did ask why, and I was met with that explanation I stated in the post and then I have not at liberty to answer any questions you may have.

    Of course this is definitely a he said she said, and the labour board and human relations have been notified and the appropriate steps on my part will be taken.

    My meaning of this post is to save anyone the trouble of any company that offers such incentives as paying for training especially in the security industry chances are your being over charged, there is no reason to be deduction that much in “Training” they didn’t hire anyone special to train me, they didn’t bring in any new materials to train me.

    I was trained by officers / guards whatever you wish to call them who had been there for a while and knew the ropes, I shadowed them, wrote practice warnings and tickets.

    I was never given the chance to go out into the field on my own and show them exactly what I was capable of. This company has done this to many people that have now been contacting me since making this post, because of the wording in their contract even if you are past your probationary time and they choose to fire you, you still have to pay for the training which is still wrong.

    That’s the point of this post, not that I got fired, I could careless I will find a job where I am appreciated, I care that they took 500$ from me, for what they are obligated to do in the first place and train a person to be able to do the abilities of the job, and to fire me without letting me show them my capabilities in the field on my own, is ridiculous…. they should have known before I completed the training, wrote the exam – passed the exam – and was taken to the city of Edmonton to be sworn in – you need to be in order to write live tickets at they call them – they should of let me go prior to all that, there is no reason from the 29th when I was sworn in – to the 2nd since I had the 30-1 off that they had any reason at all to lead them to this conclusion they must have known for a bit, and choose to drag it out until said “training” was completed in order to obtain said funds deducted

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    • Here’s something you may not have considered Tanis:

      How many employees a year do you think they hire that couldn’t make the cut?

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    • Chris BD Gerritse truthfully that’s not my problem with the company you don’t seem to understand that. I don’t mind that I got fired well I do but…. I don’t believe they should of taken 500$ from someone when they did not pay to train that person, they paid my wages and basically took them baxk

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  9. There is a probational period for everyone that start a new job and they have a right to terminate you for any and no reason. But it is crap that they made you pay for your training if you didnt quit.

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    • I don’t care that I was fired, sure I’m bummed out I mean I truly enjoyed the position.

      I’m more aggravated that they took 500$ for training from me when it was absolutely nothing special. It’s the same as a team lead as McDonald’s training you… of that makes sense… nothing special… it’s not worth 500$

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    • No you have a right to be upset .I would too. Hope you get compensation.

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    • What it costs us to train a new hire would likely surprise the heck out of what appears to be several “career” minimum wage earners involved in this discussion.

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  10. Also call the Better Business Bureau and report them.

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  11. I worked in this department for this company for 6 yrs and 11 months in various roles.
    I walked a beat… drove a car… and finally worked a mountain bike.
    Started the job at 320 lbs. Left last month at 230. I had no issues wjth management or Paladin.
    Just sayin. Btw… there is no quota… never ever has been.

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    • I beg to differ from what I was told. Along with other people who have come forward.

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    • No quota… there were days i wrote 6 tags… never heard a thing.

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    • Maybe not whilst you were there but it was different from what me and others were told.

      Which isn’t what I am debating at this point, I’m basically disgusted they basically wasted my time had me finish training – sworn in , I had two days off and then decided to fire me? Why not just not hire me don’t waste my time, and essentially steal money, there is absolutely nothing special about shadowing someone being shown how the jobs done.

      I am glad you have had a positive experience but you are one of the few. I have seen way more bad than good and sadly I am one of the bad experiences

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    • I cant say it was all roses but certainly no more negative issues than any other job

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    • I am happy that you had a decent experience, I wish I would of had the same.

      I mean sure if they thought I wasn’t a great fit that’s fine, sure it bums me out but to deduct 500$ for training that is absolutely nothing special is kinda what ticks me off, if I had choose to leave I understand it but I didn’t. I was forced by being terminated.

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    • Not cool at all.. but as you may have heard similar “I cant comment on another officers tag”
      In this case i can only offer an opinion on my experiences. Like I said, not all roses.

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    • Amanda Michelle Drew thanks amazing and oh shit ahah Chris was actually the one who took the time to train me and explain everything to me… don’t know if he knows more as to why I got fired but… I just want back what’s mine, and it’s the hours I worked that they by law are required to pay me, they did but deducted it as “training”

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    • Chris is an amazing employee and friend. He makes mistakes but he learns. Did they pay you anything at all Tanis-Lee Johnson?

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    • Amanda Michelle Drew as for slander my dear that’s only if the information isn’t true however you could message me to tell me your experience. I’ve spoken with a few people now in the same bost

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    • I actually could tell you some stuff but… im a gentleman.

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  12. Thank you for posting this. I was going to go there to the hiring fair.

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  13. Well, I am glad this happened to you. I have no sympathy for people who take a job whose only real purpose is to oppress your neighbours and to extort money from them under bullshit cover. Well, you didn’t get to help make the “quota” (i.e. theft) for the city. boohoo.

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  14. Naji Crant Naji Crant says:

    Clancylyn Lilybeth

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  15. This may also interest you “Deductions that are not allowed – There are certain deductions that an employer is not permitted to make even if they
    have the employee personally authorize the ….” https://work.alberta.ca/documents/Deductions-from-Earnings.pdf

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  16. I would get a lawyer because the contract states that “an employee will have to pay back the COST of any training that the employer has PAID for”, which would be fine for courses like first aid or whmis but this “parking enforcement training” is not a course it’s the company training their employee to do the job they are hired for so there is no cost.
    If this wasn’t about ripping people off then the company would just take a potential employee out for a day or two with another employee to see if the job is something they want or can do.

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  17. We as a society need to stop being so darn delicate. If you’re that beat up and out of shape that your feet and ankles swell after walking a few miles then to be honest I don’t blame any employer for axing you before you end up on modified duties or disability.

    Perhaps you’re not the kind of person to take advantage of these things, perhaps you are. Unfortunately all of us have hired our fair share of problems over the years and we’re all a little gun shy these days.

    If you signed a document agreeing to forfeit the cost of training should your employment cease within X number of days, and your employment ceased within that time…why exactly are you surprised?

    Sometimes you have to look at it from our point of view. How many dozens of whiney snowflakes do you think this employer has been raked over the coals by over the years? The labour pool is full of liberal voting granola munchers that are entirely too special to do a real days work.

    You may or may not be one of the above described snowflakes, that’s not the point. Unfortunately employers need to be ridiculously cautious these days. You were a red flag. You got axed. What you do next speaks volumes about you are. Crying on the internet might not be the most efficient way to seek out new employment….

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    • I’ve said before I’m not upset I was let go, I mean bummed out yes, I can see it from their side… I’m not that out of shape, I had water retention which is quite normal and was quickly fixed by my doctor. The weekend I was off and I came back to being fired.

      I am more upset that they let the entire process go on when if they figured I couldn’t handle the position why didn’t they let me go prior to my first real day of work? Or why did they hire me in the first place? I find the fact that they can deduct that amount when they choose to fire someone within days of being hired extremely unfair.

      I find charging 100$ for proserve unfair… and much more

      I’m not whining about being fired I’m sorry if that’s what the post came across as, it’s the deduction I am upset about, if I had choose to just up and leave sure… but they didn’t give me a choice. And no I am not an individual to abuse the system that’s why I’m back at work.

      And Anyone not used to walking 13-15km sometimes more in a day is going to have their fair share of ouchies… even the management said it.

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    • With your attitude as a crap empoyer I am not surprised you get bad employees. Those are the ones left when you have high turnover amd bad reputation as an unethical employer. Calling your employees as snowflakes shows your lack of management skills and manners.

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    • If they have a walking speed requirement in this position they should state it in their job description.

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    • Hmmmm, not sure where you’re getting your information from (although I suspect it’s from thin air….), personally my turnover is all but non existent. My most recent hire was 3 years ago. My longest employee is 8 years (&counting) now.

      This is very typical of an internet discussion these days. A few select people try to have a civilized discussion but it’s always ruined by a bunch that resort to insults and name calling.

      I have to commend the lady that started this post for appearing to be pretty mature about the whole thing.

      This other broad however (^^^) is a prime example of how a computer screen seems to encourage the weak minded to let their mouth run wild totally independent of the brain. I suspect the same conversation face to face over coffee would see far less insult and mud slinging.

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  18. Based on everything I’ve read from the person that posted this (all be it…just posts on the internet), she seems to be a relatively logical and level headed person to be honest.

    Obviously she’s in a position that $500 hurts a lot….as it would for most people that are seeking employment.

    The vast majority of uneducated / inexperienced comments seem to come from the clearly less intelligent folks.

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  19. having spent a good 20 years in the security industry, and having been ripped off by several of them, the only company worth working for as I see it now is the Commissionaires… and yes, we fat folks can run if we have a good motivator ( case in point, 2 child molesters getting caught with a couple of 12 yr olds; one of which was out cold, the other 12 year old was drunk; I almost caught their sorry butts until they got into a van and drove off fast )… While the Commissionaires is one ofhte few companies I haven’t worked for, I know several folks that do. Alot of folks keep trying to tell me not to knock companies I have worked for, but as I see it, if you can’t call a company out of their faults, you can’t credit them for their successes.

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  20. Lizzy Shaw Lizzy Shaw says:

    amusement.
    Don’t apply for a job you can’t handle, and leave your damn attitude at home.
    I’ve been there long enough to say you were the only person that had to go home so much.
    you can’t swim… don’t apply for lifeguard.
    Don’t come off of mat leave and shoot for a job that you need to walk so much…
    pretty simple woman. you bit off more than you could chew….

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  21. Lizzy Shaw Lizzy Shaw says:

    Angie Dee Chantal McLachlen

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  22. Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

    So what’s the issue exactly?

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    • It looks like the issue is the company hiring and firing people within days and deducting astronomical amounts for training.

      I’m sorry but training is something that you need in order to do your job so… I don’t see how it should cost someone 500$ either..,,

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      You don’t have to pay if you make it past the probationary period. Maybe I’m not reading this correctly but it sounds like this person is a liability to the company.

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    • That’s the problem however I opened the post the Contract states 6 months of employment not the probationary period.

      And to do what they did, train someone fully and then fire them, it’s not right to deduct the costs when they fired the person within days, wouldn’t they have known when this person was in the field that they wouldn’t be cut out for the position whh continue the training why not let them go, or transfer them within the company?

      I do see some sort of scam going on here myself just from reading this and the picture provided

      I don’t see how this person is a liability, they hired the person knew what they looked like, and fired them for being bigger, even though they had no problem doing the job. But the company wants a quota met, that doesn’t seem to be stated anywhere in the picture provided so I asked someone I know who worked there as well, and they were fired for getting 15 tickets a day instead of 20-25

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      Well it’s a business and like most businesses they want to make money. I think it would be hard to tell if a person can cut it or not unless you put them in the field. And knowing you’ll have to pay back the training fee if you can’t cut it is incentive to do a good job. This person also sounds like there is going to be more time off required in the near future due to an accident. In today’s markets, employers are a little more picky when it comes to hiring.

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    • The post says they were cleared to go back to work, and that they had been in the field training so I truly believe they the employer is in the wrong here, they did not give this person a real chance to prove themselves, they basically got this person through training and fired them, for things the employer knew upon hire

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      Yeah, that sounds about right buuuut, the employee couldn’t cut it. Here’s a question, if the person was more than capable of doing the job, why were they let go?

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    • That’s sorta where discrimination comes into play, they told this person they’re fat from the post and that they wouldn’t make the quota but how could they know if the person was never allowed the chance to try

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      She was in the field and even made money. I’m not sure where she wasn’t given a fair chance.

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    • The field training is different then after sworn in with no more trainer at your side actually doing the job.

      For this job you aren’t allowed to actually preform the job until the city signs a piece of paper and you pass a test it seems poster was fired of their first “real” day of work

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      You are obviously the original poster so just say what you want to say.

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    • I’m not the poster but I do know 3 people that work for the parking bylaw with paladin that’s why I applied myself was to work in that division however after seeing this

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    • And even they’ve said they watch people come in for training and be fired right after and shit

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      So how is the company making money by investing time and energy?

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    • You should not pay for a training when hired and you are not required to pay the training if you get fired. It is illegal to discriminate people wheter their size, illness, appearance, gender, secual orientation, and the list goes on.

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      Where was the discrimination?

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    • Paying for training is perfectly normal. Lots of people pay for training. Company will lose alot of money if tgey give free training to every single person.
      ” I’ll let you pay to train me, than as soon as its done ill quit before you see return on your investment and go work for someone else at a higher wage because i have training “

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    • And i can list dozens of jobs where you pay for training whether you get to complete it or not

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    • The discrimination was saying this individual was over weight and because they couldn’t keep up to another persons speed of walking they didn’t “believe” that the person would be able to meet their quota…. it’s right in the passage

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      Wait a minute. They couldn’t do the job cause they were overweight? And that’s the employers fault?

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    • The employer claimed the poster was over weight no one knows this person so can’t say yes or no, but if the employer believes this person was over weight why hire them for the position in the first place?

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    • Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

      Cause you have to be fair and give everyone a chance. Especially in today’s day and age. Just cause you’re overweight doesn’t mean you can’t do the job. Now THAT would be discriminatory. This person knew well ahead what they were getting into. How can an employer see what you can do unless you do it? That’s like hiring a truck driver and find out a week later they are terrible at driving. You can’t keep them on cause they’re a liability. But you still had to give them a chance to prove themselves.

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    • Rhon Magyar Rhon Magyar says:

      I tend to agree with Jeff here. The poster admitted herself she couldn’t keep up with the trainer. She spent some days out in the field with them and missed time for medical while still in training too. Maybe outside appts should be reached if you’re a new hire in training….

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    • Rhon Magyar Rhon Magyar says:

      Rescheduled not reached lol. If you miss part of your training that’s already a red flag that going forward you’ll be skipping more time too instead of working your schedule

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    • Rhon Magyar they had known about these appointments upon my hire.

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    • Rhon Magyar Rhon Magyar says:

      I’m just saying I would personally have tried to reschedule those appts outside of training time

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