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  1. Your hilarious.
    If me tipping or not doesn’t affect your service in anyway, then what does it matter if I tell you ahead of time or not?

    If you think you can focus your attention on tables who tip (which is a gracious gift mind you, not a requirement by any means) and ignore the ones who won’t tip, you need to go find a new job.

    As an ex-server and ex-cook your post is shameful. All customers deserve our utmost attention.

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    • Rachel Kelly what she says she will do and what she will likely do are two different things.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Where did she say she was going to ignore them?

      She said she would give them friendly, fast service and focus her extra attention on the tables intending to tip. Perhaps you need to read through again.

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    • She does not say she will ignore you. She’s basically saying she won’t go the extra mile for you, or check in extra to ensure you’re doing ok. She will just bring what is needed and leave u be.. That’s how I understand it

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Leanne Davies it’s an anonymous post. For the sake of discussion, I’m taking the post at face value instead of making judgements about an anonymous person.

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    • Did the poster possibly consider that even if she knew before hand that the customer wasn’t going to tip and she provided service above and beyond that they would possibly change their mind and leave a tip and also be a returning patron and possibly tell all their friends what a great server she was? A tip is just that, a tip for great service, with a smile and going above and beyond for their customers. I was a server and never ‘expected’ anything. Keeping my customers happy with prompt and courteous service and seeing that they were well taken care of was reward enough for me. The tip was the icing on the cake. If they tipped it meant that you did your job and you did it well.

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    • Erin Hage Erin Hage says:

      You’re **

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    • Jody Oliver Jody Oliver says:

      And that right there is the whole problem with servers expecting a tip.

      A tip is for better than average service, exceptional service. But it seems lots of servers don’t understand this concept.

      How do I know before I order how shitty you are going to be at your job.

      Posts like this make it so I don’t ever want to tip.

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    • Jody Oliver Jody Oliver says:

      And that right there is the whole problem with servers expecting a tip.

      A tip is for better than average service, exceptional service. But it seems lots of servers don’t understand this concept.

      How do I know before I order how shitty you are going to be at your job.

      Posts like this make it so I don’t ever want to tip.

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    • Kristy, checking in to see if they are ok is part of her job, i would love to see how her boss would react if she made that same statement

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    • Rachel Kelly you have an opinion as do I. Mine is different. I read between the lines. Been around a long time, it’s what I do. Especially with a post like this.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      There’s reading between the lines, and then there’s just assuming the worst in people. Two different things, in my opinion.

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    • I agree Alanna Davidson.

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Tom Trenerry Tom Trenerry says:

      Tipping is a thank you to my server!!! Thats all it is, nothing more or less!! Give me good service you get a tip, give me exceptional friendly service you will get a larger tip and if you give no service , you know what you get!!! Tell me in advance what kind of service to expect and I will know in advance what I will leave for a ti[!!

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    • Debbie Pelland Rose well said!

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    • Rachel Kelly you see it as assuming the worst and I see it as human nature. If you tell someone at the beginning you are not going to tip them…in MY opinion….is would be human nature not to treat them the same. The person who says they are going to tip would get treated better. Human nature. You treat me good, I’ll treat you good. You don’t tip me (treat me bad), your service won’t be as good. Human nature.

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    • So she won’t go the extra mile for me if I don’t tip? Huh. If I did that at my job I would be fired.

      Your customer service should not be based off if im going to tip you or not.

      Sorry. That isn’t how that works. I work in the retail industry and make minimum wage. I don’t get tips. If I don’t provide good customer server to every customer I get fired.

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    • I work in a job where I don’t get tips either. I try to do a good job because it’s the right thing to do and I feel good doing a good job. BUT…. Not talking about me or my job here. Talking about The OP and what SHE said. Gave MY opinion about what SHE said about her job, not yours. Why is this so difficult to understand? Or am I missing your point? Sorry if I am.

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    • No where in there did she say she was going to ignore or give bad service. In fact she said she would still give good service. If you have ever worked in that industry you would understand. Good service is all that’s required (which she said you will get regardless) but giving exceptional above and beyond service is a way way different thing. Waitresses aren’t required to go above and beyond they are just required to give good service. I promise you there’s a huge difference. Such as a good server wouldn’t let your drink get too low without asking you and topping you off…an exceptional server would make sure there was another refill on your table before anyone even had time to think about it. Another example ?? Having someone come in for wings and ribs…a good server would make sure you have ample napkins and wet naps…a server going above and beyond would bring you a bowl of warm water with lemon to wash ur fingers.

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    • Please. Its highly implied and stated that her way of serving you is based off tips.

      By saying you won’t tip her upfront, she has outright stated that her service towards you would change. That is bad service. I expect the same service as anyone else is a resteraunt.

      Now I am not talking extras. But if your going to provide extra services because someone is tipping you… Wow.

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    • Alexis Musik Alexis Musik says:

      Alanna Davidson you’re assuming op is a female

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  2. You know how awkward my meal is gonna be when I sit down and say “by the way, I know I have absolutely no reason to judge how great or piss poor your service may be, but I will not be leaving you a tip. Please don’t put my burger patty between your butt cheeks before it gets to my table.” How about you do your job and do your absolute best anyways and HOPE it results in a good tip?! And then yall be having the balls to say tipping is like a CONTRACT?! Where did I ever indicate that sassy susan is promised a minimum 15% for her slave labor. Damn people’s attitudes/entitlement these days

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  3. Unwritten contract…..Thank you for helping me understand…

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  4. This doesn’t make sense to me. Isn’t tipping based on good service? I decide amount of tip AFTER being served.

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  5. I tip. I don’t tip rarely and I don’t tip IF the service is lousy. I won’t know if the service is lousy when I sit down. I’m not talking a packed restaurant. I’m talking a fairly empty one and bad service. No refills, things like that. So no, you aren’t going to hear I’m not tipping when I sit down. It totally has to do with the service you provide.

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  6. Um… I’m a waitress to and I cannot imagine a customer actually saying to me upfront “I don’t tip”. Also it is possible to live on full time minimum wage if a person is good with their money. I know because I did it for years and saved up enough to buy a house while doing so.. but that’s another story.. .the problem is that where I currently work as a waitress the shifts are sometimes only 3-4 hours long, so in that case, yes tips are helpful, but you help yourself more by being frugal and learning to live BELOW your means. Most people don’t realize that it is mandatory for waitresses to pay the kitchen staff regardless of if people tip or not – we don’t “share our tips” with the cooks, we are required to pay on however much food we sell regardless of tips. I have NEVER had one customer tell the owner or manager that they don’t agree with this – but I have had people tell me after I serve them that they don’t tip because they don’t believe in tipping.

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  7. Hodzic Edin Hodzic Edin says:

    WTF is this sh!t?!?

    Whoever wrote this is confused and full of it.

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  8. Brad Daniels Brad Daniels says:

    Who in the hell is going to sit at the table and say “I’m not going to give you a tip” lmao you can’t be serious

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  9. What’s the point of telling you your not gonna get a tip before the meal or finding out after the meal?

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  10. Carol McLean Carol McLean says:

    I make minimum wages with no tips and I get by.

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    • Yup.. I worked for years for minimum wage.. and saved up enough for a house as well – the thing is though waitresses rarely get full time hours. Most shifts are 3-4 hours covering one only of the main meal times.

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  11. As a server, I totally agree with your point of view. I’d love it if my guests would let me know in advance (it rarely happens though) anyhoos, end of my comment – have a great Sunday Ya’ll

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  12. there are a lot of people who work in minimum wage jobs not being servers who never get a tip yet servers always bitch about tips… it is my choice to tip and it is only after I have been served and it will be based on how you serve me.

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    • The difference is that many other jobs at least give 6-8 hour shifts. A typically waitress’s shift might be 3-4 hours (lunch or dinner).

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    • No they don’t – plenty of people work the same small shifts as well, especially in the food/beverage or retail industry. Not always, but it’s quite common, especially if you’re PT.

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    • when I worked in restaurants, servers were always scheduled for longer shift but chose to leave after the rush as they weren’t making money…

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    • Brenda Nelson a restaurant will not normally schedule 3-4 hr shifts in case they are busy as it is difficult to keep staff once their shift is technically over as they usually have plans for immediately after… servers just want to get in, make as much money as they can in the shortest amount of time then go have fun. I never saw a server leaving with less than 50 in tips on a shift and that was after tipping out others… I won’t fall for their pity me posts

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    • Lynn Meger Lynn Meger says:

      Brenda Nelson – then they should get second jobs … regular work week is 40 hours per week, if they can’t get that at their current job, then they get a second part time job to supplement their income.

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  13. Everyone who complains about tipping should just get off there ass and serve themselves.

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  14. Kate Ward Kate Ward says:

    Like others have mentioned, I tip in conjunction with the service I get. I am usually a pretty decent tipper when I get good service, but I really hate the idea that a tip is supposed to supplement your income. There are a lot of other service industry employees that don’t get tips and are paid just as crappy as you are. I get that wait staff do work their butts off, and a tip should be in appreciation of that. It shouldn’t be expected just because you showed up to work. Sorry.

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    • The difference is that in most other service industries people get 8 hour shifts.. waitresses rarely do. As well in other service industries people are not required to share money with other workers (such as in the restaurant industry where they are sometimes forced to give money to the cooks regardless of if they get a tip or not).

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    • Kate Ward Kate Ward says:

      I understand that. Like I said, I’m usually a pretty good tipper. I also do not think that it is usual for a server who is doing a great job would get no tips from all their tables. One or two tables that don’t tip should not put a server in the red. The tip ratio would certainly be lower, I agree, but if they are losing money there is something wrong there.

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    • Jensen Jay Jensen Jay says:

      I’ve delivered food for a better than avg. pizza place and been told point blank “how do I skip the tip (on the debit machine)?I’m not tipping you,I paid the delivery fee”.(delivery fee isn’t a tip and the driver gets a fraction of that,if any). There are some that definitely don’t appreciate the service they are provided and there are those that greatly appreciate it and tip accordingly.

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    • The idea that they’re the only ones hustling all day for shit money is f-ing ridiculous, too.

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    • Kate Ward Kate Ward says:

      Jensen, I think that delivery is a completely different bag than waiting tables. I think that delivery drivers are often paid quite crappy for what they do, and I do tip my driver, but one has to question why we should. I don’t tip my mail delivery person, or courier, even when I get my package days early.

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    • Jensen Jay Jensen Jay says:

      Ya,without tips it’s way below min.wage.some must think it’s a company vehicle and gas is expensed.for the most part it’s a decent pt gig.

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    • Jensen Jay servers now get min wage, I thought?

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  15. You give me good service, you’ll get a good tip.
    You give me shitty service, you’ll get a shitty tip. Simple as that.

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  16. My only contract in a restaurant is to pay my bill. I have no contract with the waitress, don’t kid yourself

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  17. Ya like someone’s going to say “I won’t be tipping today thank you very much, here is our order” lol. Gimme a break

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  18. I was a server and cook in a restaurant in a small farming town. I was paid minimum wage and the farmers in that area do not tip no matter how good the service is. Tips were also split among all staff at the end of the shift. Most of the time we walked out with nothing, sometimes between 50 cents to $5. It wasn’t ideal but we made it work and we got over it. Sorry.

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  19. Laura Love Laura Love says:

    Get a roommate or go back to living in mom’s basement. While you are entitled to an opinion as we all are, you are not in a position to dictate and demand anything. Do you tip other minimum wage jobs because they are doing a good job?

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  20. And who was the genius who came up with the idea that servers have to share their tips with the kitchen staff in the first place ? That was a real Shitty decision as I know years ago that was Not a norm, I remember being a server years ago and my tips were my tips, besides, don’t the kitchen staff get higher wages than the servers ? Maybe it’s time to Bitch about that as they are the Real reason why even if you do get a few tips but not enough to cover their ridiculous rule that You have to pay out of your pocket, this has nothing to do whether a Paying Customer Tips or Not

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    • I agree with you. I used to pay a small tip out to kitchen or support staff back in the day.
      Now tip out is more than your wages but everyone else gets a fair wage.
      They want to revise employment standards but don’t want to touch tips.

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  21. A tip is for good service, I don’t think the majority of people decide upfront that they are not going to tip. It’s all based on the service

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  22. Ruth Chalk Ruth Chalk says:

    Work where they do a 15% gratuity fee

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  23. I think most people go in with intentions of tipping and with most being a more than reasonable amount but for me the amount may become less and less depending on the service and quality of the food and cleanliness of our table. Lately alot of places we go we have bern seated at dirty tables and they sometimes even wash them in front of us. Im sorry but that makes the amount i tip decrease a bit. However i do take into consideration that many servers are students or single parents trying to make ends meet so i usually always at least leave a little something out of kindness. But if its great i will tip more than enough

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  24. So why does it make a difference if they tell you they are going to tip or not ahead of time if you are supposedly going to give them that same great device anyways?

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  25. How about other hospitality staff who work for a few cents more that don’t get tips? How about the housekeepers in hotels that have to clean up some mess that you wouldn’t touch. I have worked in this industry always and your post just says that you’re not really cut out for this job. I get what you’re saying in some sense. But get real, no one is going to tell you prior they don’t tip. As someone else said- do your job to the best of your ability and see what happens. Once I served a bottle of wine to some guests and I expected nothing they gave me a $150 tip in a country that doesn’t generally tip! You just have to be good at what you do and the rewards will come.

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  26. Jean Freeman Jean Freeman says:

    I always tip 20%

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  27. Cindy Dato Cindy Dato says:

    Instead of complaining about your job and the pay, get a new job in the hospitality industry. Like working at the University of Alberta hospital. You can still be a server, but delivering food to the patients. But u won’t be getting tips. But your wage is fantastic! Plus your under a union. You can also be a casual, part time, since your in school. Think about it, you probably be making 2× more than working in a restaurant.

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  28. A lot of people make minimum wage and don’t get tips.

    Tips shouldn’t be expected but appreciated when it does happen.

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  29. Koren Conway Koren Conway says:

    Here’s a tip–> Finish school and stay sober because you save alot of money that way. Student finance only cares about your money during payback time when you graduate. Not uneducated and biased opinions about life. #realitycheck

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  30. This whole thing is getting beyond ridiculous – tipping is now beyond your standard hourly wage. Servers now have to paid at least the same minimum wage as other people. Tips are ON TOP of that. Plenty of people in the service industry (retail, etc.) make the same amount and never get tipped.

    If a server doesn’t make tips, the rest of the employees (BOH, etc.) do not receive any either. If a server makes, say, $100 in tips, that is distributed based on percentages. If a server makes $0 in tips, so does everyone else. Any employer who dips into your base hourly pay is doing something illegal and Employment Standards should be notified. They CANNOT take that away.

    Tips are extra, and you should be grateful you receive them.

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    • Andrea Marie Andrea Marie says:

      When I worked in the industry you tipped out based on your totally sales, not on your tips, no one knew how much tips someone made it was just assumed you made 15% of your total sales whether you made more or less it didn’t matter.. that’s why we hated answering take out calls because it would increase your sales, but usually not your tips.. which is also why I tip when I pick up take out.. I don’t agree with the poster but I feel her frustration. I was lucky I always made pretty great tips where I worked and it paid for schooling to get out of the industry.. you just have to hope the ones that do tip and tip well balance out the ones who don’t.. or find a new job..

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    • That’s unfortunate…but I know quite a few where the percentage is what’s used, and again, your employer cannot take from your hourly wage. So servers are still paid at least that. Anyone who isn’t being paid that, or money is taken off of that from them, needs to report it as it’s illegal.

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    • You’re also wrong
      Servers pay tip out based on sales not tips. It’s not illegal. Almost every place does it now. Servers pay the wages for the whole staff and management

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    • They don’t take it from your wage. They take it from your cash out and it’s often more than they pay you

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    • Sharie Amanda are you telling me a server doesn’t get their base hourly pay? If it comes from your cash out, that has nothing to do with your hourly wage. How exactly would they make someone pay from their own pocket if there’s a ‘shortage’ on tips then?

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    • You couldn’t be more wrong. A server tips out the BOH no matter what. Even is she didn’t get tips she has to tip out a certain percentage. There are very few places now that allow you to tip as you feel desereved (smaller pubs) or that have a tip pool (Boston pizza). Most require a kitchen tip out and bartender tip out based on your sales in those areas regardless if the server was tipped or not

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    • And how do you pay that out then Cecilia? If you don’t make enough in tips, how do you pay tip outs then?

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    • Julie Cooper Julie Cooper says:

      Just a comment on servers end up covering the whole place with their tips – the servers don’t cook the food and typically make the cocktails. It’s not a one man show. The experience is a whole, the server is the front man. It would suck to know you were covering a tip out for someone who didn’t tip, but what about when you are tipped over 15 percent? (I served for many years, it sucks to get stiffed, but it happens)

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    • I watch to see who is giving the bad service. If the kitchen is slow or gets the order wrong (rare as opposed to well done) I wll tip the waiter but less than I would if the kitchen cooperated.

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    • If you didn’t make enough, you pay out of pocket

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    • Raju Brar Raju Brar says:

      Amanda I don’t know what you’re not understanding? Whether a server gets tipped or not they have to tip out. I don’t get what is so hard to comprehend? If you didn’t make any money on that shift you dip into your other funds and tip out NO MATTER WHAT.

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    • Which is…illegal! They cannot FORCE you to pull money out of your pocket and give it to them. Are you telling me you’re stupid enough to do that?

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    • Unless they are holding you down and emptying your pockets while doing so, you are voluntarily giving them your own money when you are under no obligation to do that. So what you’re saying then, is you’re either dumb enough to give your own money away to your employer when they ask, or you’re incompetent enough as a server that you don’t earn enough in tips to even make enough to take home yourself.

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    • Please show me where this is “illegal”. I’m an HR professional and I assure you it is not illegal. Servers pay to serve tables.

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    • Please show me anywhere where an employer is allowed to demand you pay them.

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    • Ask around. Call restaurants and ask what their tip out policy is

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    • Doesn’t mean it’s right…unless an employee signs a contract at the beginning of their employment that they AGREE to follow that, an employer cannot force someone to hand over their money like that. Just because most blindly follow or believe it’s ok doesn’t mean it is. Many people have no idea what their rights are.

      And if an employee does sign a contract where they agree to that, they have absolutely no one to blame but themselves. Whining after the fact does nothing.

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  31. BJ Lucas BJ Lucas says:

    I’d be afraid my telling about not tipping in advance of my meal would backfire. I’d be scared someone would contaminate my food out of spite.

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  32. I decide based on how my service was

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  33. Jodi Flatt Jodi Flatt says:

    Consider this your milestone job. Any respectable adult has had a shitty job for lower-than-living-wages. May it empower you to pursue your passion in another industry.

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  34. I tip if I get good service. If I were to tell them I’m not going to tip my service will be horrible. Why would I do that?

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  35. Jody Oliver Jody Oliver says:

    To the good servers in the industry, you may want to explain to the new staff how tips work.

    Tips are for better than average service. Not because you just showed up to work.

    Posts like this one make me not want to tip anyone anymore, but that’s not fair to the good servers.

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  36. Randi Lynn Randi Lynn says:

    *sigh* when are servers going to stop bitching about tips!! You knew what you signed up for when you started your job. Not everyone will tip or tip your demanded 20%. (Also since when did 10% expected tip go up to +15%?) so deal with it or find a different minimum wage job that you won’t be constantly disappointed in

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  37. The poster was clearly directing this towards people who don’t believe in tipping at all,ever. There are many people of the opinion no matter what the service, the serving industry shouldn’t get tips. So while unrealistic, based on the fact that everyone gets all uppity instead of reading/listening and analyzing, the idea behind this post would be very lovely for those who work hard, provide good service and still get nothing based on bad luck of having those types of people sat in their sections.

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  38. The problem is sharing tips with the ‘back of the house’.

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  39. Sif Hansen Sif Hansen says:

    Does a server tell me in advance if the food is going to taste terrible or arrive 45 minutes late, or that the server will forget to serve my table for 20 minutes or get busy chatting with a coworker? I don’t think an unwritten contract or communicating intentions up front is necessary; the expectations are already set on both sides of the equation. Deliver on your customers’ expectations, and you will get yours met too. I recently read that a 15% gratuity is seen as the standard amount. Anything more or less is directly related to the customer’s experience, whether it falls below or above the standard service we expect.

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  40. You chose to get into this industry knowing the wages and that tips are optional therefore you have no reason to complain. I tip based on service, food and the attitude of my server. If you do your job I reward you with a tip… Kind of like when you go to school, if you do your assignments you get good grades, if you don’t you get bad marks…but in this case you are rewarded with money instead of grades! Perhaps some people can’t afford to tip but they know you get wages and they want a night out. Judging people because they don’t tip is ridiculous, I worked as a waitress, bartender, etc for many years and because I was always pleasant and did my job I generally received good tips. Tips are not mandatory so stop acting like they are! I hate the entitled attitudes!

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  41. Sarah Jeanne Sarah Jeanne says:

    “An unwritten contract between guest and service staff…”

    Wtf?

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  42. If you can’t afford to tip, you cannot afford to eat out. Pretty simple.

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    • Um no. I am not your employeer. I am there to eat food not pay your wage.

      Metaphorically speaking

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    • These people will be the same that complain about no longer having a job because people don’t come out to eat anymore…

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    • Lynn Meger Lynn Meger says:

      Tipping isn’t a requirement. The bill that is received with a total on it is the requirement. That amount will cover the food, its prep and cook time, and the waitress who served me – their wages at least. If service is above and beyond the basic taking of my order, bringing me my food and drink, then I’ll tip. Otherwise, tipping is a BONUS and not something anyone should expect.

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    • i bet you would have a very different attitude on tipping if your kid was working to put himself/herself through school, or you were a single parent looking to keep your family above water. Like I said, if you can’t afford to eat out and tip, eat at McDonalds!! cannot believe how cheap people are!

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    • Or go work somewhere else?? Somewhere you have a wage you can afford to live on? Taking care of your family first instead of what is easier? Take a second job like I did is an option. My mom worked min wage service job while I was growing up… guess what? She worked hard for her tips! She also had 5 kids to take care of.. Oh and she was doing upgrading so she could get a better job. Economy is shit and jobs are disappearing. I hope good waiters and waitresses get to keep their jobs and the brats get let go. Its your fault if you are not getting your worth. (The managment should pay servers a living wage but that will not happen until servers talk to their bosses) I can not BELIEVE how many people don’t understand they are lossing their customers because McDonald’s (my case its A&W) doesn’t give as much attitude so it gets my business! And they give me coupons so I keep going back!

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    • Lynn Meger Lynn Meger says:

      Sorry no, my attitude wouldn’t be different. It wasn’t different when I worked in the service industry, it wasn’t different when my friends worked in the service industry, it wouldn’t be different if my children worked in the service industry.

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  43. Did you actually read that first part of your post?! If you knowingly accept the job you’ve chosen for yourself, why are you expecting the rest of us (some of whom also make minimum wage, part time, and depend on every untipped dollar) to pick up your slack, and cover your bases? Most of us tip AFTER we’ve received great service. And those that don’t: that’s their prerogative. It’s beyond rude and entitled to expect any person to tip when it’s not earned yet. Grow up. Find a job that tips don’t play into so you can get over yourself. I’ll be “that woman” any time I want. What my server thinks about me when I walk out the door doesn’t matter one way or the other.

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  44. Shah Jee Shah Jee says:

    With this economy days of tipping are gone i was at value village there was 10 minutes to open the store a long line there just because it is 50% off on already low price so get back into the real world i work as well no tips in my work

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  45. How will I know if I’m going to tip before I order ??? Depends on the service?

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  46. I agree with this post. The people who don’t tip are almost always the rude ones who also don’t understand that they aren’t the only table in there.
    Servers don’t get breaks.
    Servers get no job protection.
    Servers get sexually harassed
    Servers scrape your fithy dishes
    If a server hurts themselves their wcb is a joke and restaurants never have proper safety methods in place
    If a server needs ei it’s based on minimum wage only

    Most servers pay more in tip out than they make in wages. Anyone who feels good making a server pay out of pocket to serve them, needs to have a long hard look at their moral compass.

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    • Tianna Hlady Tianna Hlady says:

      Servers are legally entitled to breaks just like everyone else. I’m not a server and I’m still sexually harassed by men at work from time to time. WCB is always difficult to file for no matter your profession. EI is for sure only going to be based on an hourly wage, tips are not expected it’s supposed to be for exemplary service. If the government allowed tips to be counted as wage you’d be making below minimum wage like it was before they passed the law saying that servers need to be paid the minimum hourly wage same as everywhere else.

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    • Servers are not entitled to breaks.
      If you’re being s3xually harassed please stand up with us.
      You don’t get it

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  47. This is why I choose subway.

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  48. Samara White Samara White says:

    I served for 12 years, and I can assure you that as long as you are a GOOD waitress, and not a bad one, and you don’t spend your money foolishly, you can make a very VERY good living. You make minimum wage but with tips, even if some tables dont tip your average wage should be 20/hr. Most of which most servers don’t report it all on taxes, because no one keeps track of cash tips. So you also get tax breaks that way. I’m tired of seeing servers complain about this kind of stuff. Get over it.

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  49. Oh PLEASE!!!!! Rofl!!!!! We will tip if the service was great (even if the food sucked, I will still tip) but if the server is rude, nope. I worked in a salon as an esthetician for over 15 years and part of my job was to be super friendly, kind, and to “read” my clients moods and personality, if possible. It didn’t matter if I was having a shitty day, or I wasn’t feeling well or I had a super rude client earlier in the day (sadly, all too common) I had to put on my happy face and make conversation like I was having the best day ever. I KNEW this going into my career. It was part of my job. Clients come first. I had pretty awesome clients and I made amazing tips, I never expected a tip because I didn’t know all the details of my clients lives. I had a couple clients who came regularly but never tipped, I didn’t care because they were my regular clients and I went out of my way to treat them amazing. If you depend on your tips for living maybe look into another job.

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  50. What is the average tip out now to the back of the house?

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  51. I am not telling you anything when I sit down except what I want to order. How I conduct myself is none of your business. I do not feel obligated to tip. I do not agree with manditory tipping except in large group accomodating when extra staff need to be staffed to take care of large groups. I tip according to the service I receive, anywhere from nothing (for shitty, rude service) right up to 25% for excellent service. So YOU should decide ahead of time when you start your shift if you want lots of good tips then you best provide excellent service. It’s that simple really.

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  52. Angela Budd Angela Budd says:

    I used to be a server. Yes of course I busted my ass to EARN my tips. If I didn’t get them I used that as a self reflection to do better.

    But..BUT…what about the girl working in the clothing store who runs back and forth for new clothing sizes and different outfits for the lady in the change room who also makes minimum wage?? Where is her tip ‘DEMAND’? or The oil change guy servicing YOUR vehicle and checking fluid levels and airfilters who also makes minimum wage..where is his tip ‘DEMAND’. Point is there is Lots of jobs that are minimum wage and Direct customer ‘Serving’ who are equally as entitled to tip base but understand they CHOOSE a minimum wage job. (Forwhatever reason is their own). They do not come on here whining that they HAVE TO HAVE these tips. Tip should be a privilege not a requirement. If you think you deserve it…then EARN IT.

    That does not cover your best efforts and someone not tipping. For whatever reason they choose not to tip you can’t expect to change the world. If you knowingly did your best and there is no way of improving that it is NOT you as a person and it reflects back on your patrons and you have to learn to shrug off the as***les!

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  53. Lyn Hessels Lyn Hessels says:

    This is what I’m interpreting: “please let me know ahead of time if you are going to pay me for doing my job which includes loads of customer service so I can decide if you’re worth any effort to make your dining a good experience”. In case you didn’t get the memo; professionalism is a huge portion of any job where you with the public. I get it that you likely don’t make a lot of money but the tip out (which is illegal) is your employers doing, not your customer’s problem.

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  54. Faye Flatt Faye Flatt says:

    (a) tips are usually based on the level of service, quality of food etc., and, for obvious reasons, that information would not be available at the time the patron sits down (b) not ALL servers are required to tip out, and (c) if your level of service is not affected whether a tip will be forthcoming or not, why do you want to know ahead of time.

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  55. I don’t think it is fair that a waitress or waiter should have to tip out if no tip was left either. But this happened when my daughters worked in that industry while in school. I think that as a customer we need to ask about the policy of tipping and talk to the owner manager about it. I personally do not want to eat or drink at such a place. If I want to tip or not doesn’t mean someone should be punished by my decision!! Owners need to pull their own weight when it comes to wages.

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  56. If I get shitty service, that server gets no fuckin tips. I tip on a servers speed, that they have a good memory and dont fuck it up and if they’re friendly and nice.

    If you suck at being a waitress, take forever to take my order then proceed to enter it wrong, or act all entitled like the OP of this post, no tip for you.

    Dont like it?? Maybe try upping your game.

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  57. Huh some waitresses and waiters make 100 plus a night on top of their wage.
    The better the service usually the better tip.
    If you are rude, lazy, or incompetent at your job there is a high likely hood that you won’t get a tip or a small tip.
    Now if the chef screws up the meal sometimes the server gets the blame and it is unfair but you are the face of the establishment. That is where you get the management to help and/or deal with the situation.
    Then a review process should happen( never or rarely ever does thou).

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  58. My personal opinion to all the servers that believe they deserve something for showing up to work. So now lots of people don’t go out to eat,(statistics don’t lie) in a few years those places will close and you lose your job. 😀 This is why the next generation is so fussy about when and where they go out. Personally I don’t go to any big well known restaurants anymore. Only family business where they work hard (and I tip them well because they (the owners or 1/2 staff members doing the serving) need the business in order to stay open) or where I can call and pick up.
    With all these people whining about tips and using the whole “don’t eat out then” bs I don’t now, because I don’t want to deal with your attitude. Ps no one tips me at my min wage job and I still show up to do the job I agreed to when I was hired. So say good bye to your jobs! I hear walmart is hiring for now…

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  59. Lol telling your server you aren’t going to give a tip before they do any thing just gives most of them the excuse to do something nasty to your meal before they put it on your table lol

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  60. If you can go to a restaurant and eat out you can afford to tip accordingly to the service…period

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  61. First of all, your service is what I expect. Your job is to wait on me and provide me the best customer service and make me want to return.

    Second of all: It is not the customers problem at all how you get paid, how your tips work, or who you have to provide your tips to.

    Thirdly: Tipping is based off service. You provide good service, you get a tip. Sometimes you don’t. Customers should never be shamed or treated differently based off tipping.

    Fourth: Just because you might not serve me differently (which lets be honest, you said you would. ) doesn’t mean others will do the same.

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  62. Pat Scott Pat Scott says:

    my husband and I tip for good service no matter what restaurant we are in even if the food is not up to par If the service is good we are generous were in a restaurant today in Golden BC. we had the most awesome waitress who put up with my fussiness and ended up helping me select exactly what I wanted.. gave her a very generous tip the food was good but the service was awesome and we felt she should be rewarded for that service

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  63. We tip all the time unless…we get shitty service. So tired of these tipping posts.

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  64. Why don’t you get over yourself?
    You’re not a server, you’re a guilt tripping, entitled, opportunist.

    And as you said you are doing your job by choice.

    My point is, if you’re this type of server, and choose not to give good service and serve decent food, let people know BEFORE you sit them down. That way you’re not wasting the customers time And you chase the tips you think you’re entitled to, but will likely not get.
    Instead of rattling on about what you think you’re worth, SHOW customers by doing. The tips will come automatically.

    Stop vulturizing customers, they’re not your carrion.
    You should be a used car saleman.

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  65. Rick O Rick O'Shay says:

    Another fruit that doesn’t understand that their tip depends on their provided services. You give me crap service, i have no obligation to tip you. Can you please inform me of you’re a shitty server before you hand me a menu? Can you tell me before i order if the chef smokes and i should ask for rare to get a medium steak? Should i ask you in advance if you’re going to take 4 tries to get my food cooked properly when i don’t ask for anything special? Can you tell me in advance if you deserve a tip first of all.

    Secondly, if you need a better paying job, they’re out there. You choose shit pay, you get shit pay. When a place charges a huge markup on food, maybe you should either talk with your manager about the value of your services with them, or find a better paying field.

    Waiting tables is a young persons job, never meant to be lived off of. Keep crying but just serve me my food on time and we’ll talk about the tip after, ok snowflake?

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  66. This is why I don’t go out to eat ! Self entitlement at it’s best. I work in retail, I don’t get any tips & I provide excellent customer service to my customers.

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  67. Alexis Musik Alexis Musik says:

    Good for you OP!!!

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  68. My tip depends on your service. There is no way I can know how you will be in advance. Asking someone if they will tip is very rude in my opinion. It’s like asking wedd

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  69. Marv Reil Marv Reil says:

    I tip, most often, graciously! Buy, let me tell you about the same time of my life, young, just out of school, and working in a tire shop, putting on your brand new tires, or fixing your f’d up flat, busting my knuckles, getting filthy, no one, no not one of you’s tipped me for a necessary service. I got a better education, a better job, and enjoy a better lifestyle, but I never forget not getting more than minimum wage,

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  70. I don’t agree with servers having to tip out kitchen staff- bussers, yes, but kitchen staff get paid more and should not get tips, and even then it should be a percentage of tips made, not sales

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  71. Peggy Zubyk Peggy Zubyk says:

    Do you let your customers know that the food is going to be cold when it comes out of the kitchen, your service is going to be slow, etc.? It’s a two-way street. Be grateful for those who do choose to tip as it is not an obligation, but any server doing their job is.

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  72. My wife served. When she serves you cheap patrons she loses money on you as she has to tip out to the house a percentage of your bill if you tip or not. The servers rely on the tips as their income. Don’t be cheap. If you can’t afford to tip grab a pizza and eat at home. I tip 25 – 30% for good service.

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  73. Kerry Lynn Kerry Lynn says:

    Good grief we’re beating a dead horse here.

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  74. Tracy Veen Tracy Veen says:

    I don’t agree. I tip as for how my service is. If you are a crappy waiter/waitress you will get a crappy tip but if you are good you will get a good tip. I don’t believe in a set percentage. Hands down some servers deserve a good tip and some really deserve none

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  75. Kole Dupe Kole Dupe says:

    Lmao tell you in advance if your going to a tip or not yeah let’s get serious who would do that

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  76. I wish for you that everybody will tip you well and for people to stop expecting free service … I feel for you and can not understand how is that even possible to go to the restaurant , let somebody to jump around you , demand good service and smile only to go home and leave the server empty handed , how someone can do that ??? Customer service in Canada is crawling compare to U.S only Because customers being cheap and needy at the same time !!! Tip your server if you are provided a good service !!!That is an absolute must for the job well done

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  77. I get its assumed u tip your server however, a lot of services EXPECT a 20% tip! Not happening unless you’re AMAZING.

    I will never tell a server I intend to not tip them because I will if you’re service to my table is above the normal service you’re paid to do! If the server does the basics….no tip. If the server is rude….definitely no tip. If the server (like my last one) get u the wrong drink, forgets to punch in ur appies, doesn’t come back to check on meals then flakes out and u don’t see her….no tip. A tip is earned by great service….not average, not bare minimum, not chatting with friends or hanging in the back giggling about shit…..that’s not getting u a tip. I’ve worked in the Industry for 12 years so I have high expectations as I know what you should do as a server.

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  78. Kyria Aline Susan Gullacher people suck. I’m going to live on an island. Care to join?

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  79. Summer Cree Summer Cree says:

    Not obligated to tip, if your a shitty waitress you won’t get tipped , if you don’t do your job efficiently you won’t get tipped . So if you haven’t been getting tipped “poster” than maybe you should rethink your action on behalf of the customer.. simple

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  80. Gina Belle Gina Belle says:

    Ridiculous, I decide on tipping after my meal, not before. I don’t understand why you would have to pay back staff out of your pocket, I get that they might get a percentage of what you actually get in tips, but why would you have to give above that?

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  81. If I dont tip it is cause you suck. I don’t go into my meal with intentions not to tip.
    That is all on you.
    If you are getting tipped, take a look at your work.
    If I donr leave a tip it is my way of saying “u suck”.

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    • Dude….i waitresses all through college.
      I was intelligent enough to know why I didn’t get a tip. And smart enough to know not to focus on one or two tables.
      Infact, rule of thumb was never to look at tables individually but count it all at end of night as a whole. And I always came out ahead. Always.
      If this poster is so concerned about the few that didn’t leave her a tip, It is clear that it is happening often and she sucks.
      If she can’t figure that out on her own, and wants to complain on a public forum, she will get the many replies as to why people do what they do..
      You trying to educate me is not going to change the way I do things.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Leave a penny if that’s the message you’re trying to convey. If you leave nothing it’s generally assumed you just don’t tip anyone.

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    • Leaving a penny is being rude. I am not trying to be rude jist not paying for a service I didn’t receive.
      TIPS: to insure prompt service.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Then you’re not getting the message across, which is what you said in your comment was your intention.

      Also, tips doesn’t stand for anything. To be grammatically correct you would be ENSURING prompt service, which would make it TEPS.
      When you insure something you are paying in advance, like your home or vehicle insurance.

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    • Why are you all over my comment? I do me. You do you.
      This I how I do it.
      Maybe you dont like it or agree but to the poster, this is my way.
      Just do you!

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Because you said not leaving a tip was your way of saying “you suck”, and I’m telling you that not leaving a tip says to service staff “I’m cheap”. Leaving a penny will communicate your dissatisfaction.

      That’s why I commented, I’m not “all over your comment”.

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    • If you want to go on the rest of your day passing blame on cleint and calling then cheap I stead of looking inward…well ….bigger issues. 😉

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    • Maybe to you.
      I managed many restaurants, bars, ect and I didnt see it that way.
      You will be much happier when you open your mind to the way people think, especially when they tell you exactly how they think 😉

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    • I am not being defensive…this is my comment.
      You are the one that doesn’t like my comment and it trying to educate me.
      Princess….how do I put it nicely ….i don’t agree with you and I don’t give a shit what you think you need to learn me on. Lol

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    • And really . .am I supposed to care if someone thinks I am cheap? It is my money. I dont have to gice it to someone no matter how much I have. In fact I am cheap. I didn’t get what I have by giving my shit away cause someone feels like they deserve it.
      It is such a liberal additude to feel entitled to someone else’s money for any reason and beleive someone is cheap if they dont give you their money.
      #libtard

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      Nowhere did I state whether it not I agree with tipping or expect anyone’s money to be handed to me (again, NOT A SERVER). I’m just telling you what leaving no tip is saying to service staff, since it’s not what you want it to say. Jumping all over me with all these wacko assumptions has been really funny though, so thanks for that.

      Also, not a liberal, but that’s a very hip, young use of a hashtag. You go girl.

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    • Jody Oliver Jody Oliver says:

      Rachel Kelly, you must be a special kind of ignorant to realize when I don’t tip your shitty attitude and service it is because you suck at your job.

      Judging by your personality on here you had to come up with some stupid coverup on why you didn’t get tipped, you know, blame everyone else, because you are perfect. Or so you think.

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    • Ya I just cant…
      I guess I am just an old person that knows nothing. Good thing youre here to educate me cause gosh….how else am I gonna find my way through this world.
      I have experience with this konda tho g cause I have a teenager that also thinks he knows everything.
      You will “get it” one day.

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    • Ya I just cant…
      I guess I am just an old person that knows nothing. Good thing youre here to educate me cause gosh….how else am I gonna find my way through this world.
      I have experience with this kinda thing cause I have a teenager that also thinks he knows everything.
      You will “get it” one day.

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    • Just to confirm…i just texted my sister who jas been a server for over 20 years and makes an awesone career at it. I asked her “hey what do you think when someone doesn’t tip” her reply …”I prob did a shit job or they didn’t have enough money. Why? ”
      There you go…right from the mouth of a career waitress.

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    • Biggest idiot on the internet today award goes to Rachel Kelly! Thanks for the laughs you moron.

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    • If I get shitty service, that server gets no fuckin tips. I tip on a servers speed, that they have a good memory and dont fuck it up and if they’re friendly and nice.

      If you suck at being a waitress, take forever to take my order then proceed to enter it wrong, or act all entitled like the OP of this post, no tip for you.

      Dont like it?? Mayhe try upping your game.

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    • Jody Oliver Jody Oliver says:

      Rachel, are you that stupid or just that slow. There are several people that have commented that they leave a tip of ZERO for poor service. Not 0.01 like you say. But you’re to dense to figure out that you just may be the one that doesn’t have a clue.

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    • Jody Oliver super random…but I private messaged you 🙂

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    • Looks like she couldn’t take the heat and ran. Or maybe, she actually read her comments and realized what a condescending cunt she sounds like.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      I haven’t waitressed in several years, so I’m not doing anything. But as someone who managed a bar, I’m telling you what the service staff of today will think.

      I don’t care what you do, I’m just telling you what your lack of a tip is actually saying, since it’s not what your initial comment conveyed that you want it to be.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      I’m sure you managed many bars and restaurants, many years ago. I’m telling you that the attitude has changed so your information and way of thinking, is dated.
      You can be resistant to what I’m telling you and remain stuck in your ways, I don’t care. But you’re wrong.

      Perhaps you would be much happier when you realize that times change and are able to open your mind to the way people think, and accept that it’s not the same as when you were younger. You seem to be plenty pleased with your ignorance though so I suppose you’ll stick with what works. Old dog, new tricks and all that.

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    • Rachel Kelly Rachel Kelly says:

      For the third time, since you keep telling me about my service, I’M NOT A SERVER. I don’t get tipped in my position, so all your oh so enlightening comments about my shit service are completely irrelevant.

      It’s not my fault you can’t be told new information without freaking out about it. Again, not once have I said I agree or disagree with how people tip. But YOU said in your comment that not leaving a tip is your way of saying the server did a poor job. I could give a shit if you’re cheap or not, just like I could give a shit if you ever learn proper sentence structure, spelling, grammar or punctuation. But getting pissy with people who correct you just shows YOU think you know it all, when clearly age and intelligence are not at all mutually exclusive.

      For the future, you do have the option to just say “thank you” or “I never considered that” when presented with new information, whether you agree or not. But judging by your profile you take some form of pride in being a bitch, so you go ahead and “do you”.

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